I have been using cavy cafe’s for over 10 years. If you put Tractor Supply Equine Bedding Pellets in it with their hay and food, and fleece liners in their cage, they will slowly potty train themselves. I have tried cat boxes and other things as a kitchen area and I always end up getting the cavy cafe! A regular kitchen trash bag fits right over it to make dumping and changing the bedding easy. Just get it. You won’t regret it.